[pygtk] Re: Would like to change some FAQ's
cedric.gustin at swing.be
Thu Aug 5 14:37:37 WST 2004
Christian Robottom Reis wrote:
>>there exists an all-in-one installer on http://gladewin32.sourceforge.net/.
>>I've installed and used it two days on my computer, it works all fine.
>>Seems to be the new installer, since dropline cancelled his development.
> Cédric, Ivan, PyGTK people, GTK+ people: are we going to endorse using
> this all-in-one installer, or is it going to disappear under our feet
> again <wink>?
I recently contacted Ivan about this but haven't got any answer yet (he
might be on vacation ?!). To avoid any confusion, I'd like to have all
'GTK+ on win32' related 'products' (runtime, bindings and mybe gaim
and/or gimp) available from a single website (or at least referenced
from that site). The current situation is quite insane IMHO. We have
1. gladewin32 (http://gladewin32.sf.net) : GTK+ 2.4.4 runtime + devel
files + libglade + glade. gtk-wimp theme is available but is not the
2. Alex Shaduri's installer (http://members.lycos.co.uk/alexv6/): GTK+
2.4.3 runtime only. Many themes available. Nice gtk2_prefs theme
3. Jernej Simoncic's gimp installer
(http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/) : GTK+ 2.4.3 runtime only in the
installer but devel files available as a zip file. Targets Gimp 2.
4. Gaim for win32 (http://gaim.sourceforge.net/win32/index.php) : GTK+
2.4.3 runtime only. 3 themes available (including gtk-wimp). Targets gaim.
4. pygtk and gtkmm for win32
(http://www.pcpm.ucl.ac.be/~gustin/win32_ports/): currently recommends
the gladewin32 installer. gtkmm downloads and installs GTK+ from
gladewin32 by default. pygtk also works with other runtimes.
There are probably others I'm not aware of. This is very confusing and
time consuming, both for the users and the developers. The GTK+ source
code is available to everyone from a single source. I don't see why we
can't have a single installer for GTK+ on win32 from a single source
(CVS somewhere) where everybody can contribute. With the exception of
Jernej, eveybody is using NSIS for the installer scripts. In my message
to Ivan, I proposed to merge our projects (gtk+, gtkmm and pygtk on
win32) and move them to gtk-win.sf.net (the original sourceforge site
for the dropline installer), adding our nsis scripts to CVS and asking
the other packagers to join and contribute.
I'm not a GTK+ packager. I don't want to endorse one installer in
particular. I currently recommends the gladewin32 one because it
includes libglade (required by the pygtk glade module) and glade. gtkmm
also requires the GTK+ developer files (headers and import libraries).
These are also included in the gladewin32 installer.
Just my 2 cents...
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